Cry me a freaking river. If this isn’t the stupidest story I’ve seen in ages, and I’ve seen some stupid stories. What a moron. Really, can people get any stupider?
By JULIA SILVERMAN, Associated Press WriterWed Apr 25, 3:27 AM ET
If Gov. Ted Kulongoski seems a little sluggish this week, he’s got an excuse: he couldn’t afford coffee.
In fact, the Democratic governor couldn’t afford much of anything during a trip to a Salem-area grocery store on Tuesday, where he had exactly $21 to buy a week’s worth of food — the same amount that the state’s average food stamp recipient spends weekly on groceries.
I was always given the impression that food stamps were to be considered supplemental. Supplemental to me means that you should provide some food for yourself and not expect taxpayers to foot your entire bill.
Kulongoski is taking the weeklong challenge to raise awareness about the difficulty of feeding a family on a food stamp budget.
Has the idea of getting a job been mentioned to any of these people? If $21 per week is not enough to feed yourself or your family — get a job.
Accompanied by reporters and food stamp recipient Christina Sigman-Davenport, Kulongoski headed straight for a display of organic bananas, only to have Sigman-Davenport steer him toward the cheaper non-organic variety.
The governor pined wistfully for canned Progresso soups, but at $1.53 apiece, they would have blown the budget. He settled instead for three packages of Cup O’Noodles for 33 cents apiece. Kulongoski also gave up his usual Adams natural, no-stir peanut butter for a generic store brand, but drew the line at saving money by buying peanut butter and jelly in the same jar.
“I don’t much like the looks of that,” said Kulongoski, 66, staring at the concoction.
Other shoppers in the store were bemused by Kulongoski’s quest.
“Obviously, he doesn’t shop often,” Barb Sours of Salem said, as Kulongoski bounced around the aisles in search of granola. “He’s all over the place.”
Kulongoski did pause to chat with shoppers John and Bonnie White of Salem, telling them all about his $21 limit.
“Don’t spend it all in one place,” John White warned.
Along the way, Sigman-Davenport, a mother of three who works for the state Department of Human Services and went on food stamps in the fall after her husband lost his job, dispensed tips for shopping on a budget. Scan the highest and lowest shelves, she told the governor. Look for off-brand products, clip coupons religiously, get used to filling, low-cost staples like macaroni and cheese and beans, and, when possible, buy in bulk.
At the check-out counter, Kulongoski’s purchases totaled $21.97, forcing him to give back one of the Cup O’Noodles and two bananas, for a final cost of $20.97 for 19 items.
After the hourlong shopping trip, Kulongoski said he was mindful that his week on food stamps will be finite and that thousands of others aren’t so lucky.
“I don’t care what they call it, if this is what it takes to get the word out,” Kulongoski said, in response to questions about whether the food stamp challenge was no more than a publicity stunt. “This is an issue every citizen in this state should be aware of.”
Seriously, every citizen should be aware of this fiasco just so that they are aware that their tax dollars are going towards feeding people who are 9 times out of 10, just too lazy to get a job. It reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw a few months back:
Work Hard! Millions on welfare are counting on you!
UPDATE: Because I realize I sound a little jaded here, I’m gonna throw a scripture into the mix:
Proverbs 19:15 (New King James Version)
15 Laziness casts one into a deep sleep,
And an idle person will suffer hunger.

i agree with you on almost all of this. ESPECIALLY the point about food stamps being a suppliment. I think that if you took a national survey you would find that most people believe food stamps are to cover everything regarding food budget.
On another not while i totally agree with you that there are WAY to many people dependent on these things and abusing welfare especially… there are also people that find themselves in situations they never anticipated. I know several single moms who were left all alone and had to do food stamps, work, have the kids… they were abandoned. Most of them have govt help, and church help. Anyway, I just know there are those out there that really hate being on them and are doing them for as little as possible. But maybe they fit into the 10% as you suggested, i don’t know.
By: mommyzabs on April 26, 2007
at 3:06 pm
Thanks MZ. I do agree with you. I understand sometimes that single parents are left with not much of a choice other than to be on food stamps. I honestly, really don’t have much of a problem with someone who earnestly works to make ends meet, but a food stamp supplement is still helpful / necessary.
My problem comes when people start believing they are entitled. Not to sound harsh, but we live in a capitalistic society and I do not believe we are entitled to health care or groceries. These things need to be paid for — and not always with the tax payer’s money.
Your point is well taken — thanks for stopping by
By: wytammic on April 26, 2007
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“Seriously, every citizen should be aware of this fiasco just so that they are aware that their tax dollars are going towards feeding people who are 9 times out of 10, just too lazy to get a job.”
The point is well taken. I recall that most of the times in the Bible the poor that were seeking alms were the crippled, blind, lepers, widows, orphans, etc. The problem is that there are so many people under some pretext “Qualifying” for welfare and many because of their lack of personal responsibility that they place such a heavy burden on the program that the most needy don’t get enough help. You would think the liberal society would want to tighten this thing up so that greater funding would be available to better help the truely disadvantaged. . . . . . Next Stop Lauderdale
By: stevereenie on April 26, 2007
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Damn. You know, there were times in law school that I survived on $20/week. Sure, I would prefer to spend $50 and buy organic and fresh vegetables, but ya do what ya gotta do.
Is he suggesting that taxpayers (many of whom live on about $30/week in groceries themselves) subsidise organics for people on welfare? What next – BMWs for them, too?
I’m not surprised, though. Once it was suggested that housing and health care should be provided “free”, you know that organic food had to be next in line.
By: theobromophile on April 26, 2007
at 3:36 pm
You would think the liberal society would want to tighten this thing up so that greater funding would be available to better help the truely disadvantaged
Excellent point.
By: theobromophile on April 26, 2007
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Gasp!!!! Mixing social/economic/political commentary with a verse from the Bible???? Don’t tell the media giants or they’re likely to call for your resignation
Good post through. If I remember right, Wyoming’s welfare program is the strictest in that you have a total of fives years of welfare. Along with that, I know there are classes offered at the employment center on job hunting and I believe the county has classes on finance/budgeting stuff.
For what it’s worth, have you heard that “Gov. Ahhhnold” (R/D-CA) [his last name is too hard to spell in a hurry] takes no salary from his job as State Executive?
This quote (among many) from the above article particularly stood out and it just needed a comment:
He was probably in the 20 items or less lane any way!
By: Scott on April 26, 2007
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…but that involves liberals seeing gov’t funds as limited; they think that, somehow, money multiplies when given to the Feds, much like what Jesus can do with fish.
By: theobromophile on April 26, 2007
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Oh my, I turn my back for a minute and you all start such interesting comments!
What an society of entitlement we are turning into.
And Scott, please don’t turn me over to the MSM
By: wytammic on April 26, 2007
at 4:04 pm
Oh and Bridget — are you saying that everyone is not entitled to organic produce? Just asking
By: wytammic on April 26, 2007
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Hi w,
The difficulties the liberal elite have with understanding how we peasants live is something I don;t have time to go into at the moment. However, if you can’t feed one person at a subsistence level for $21 per week, you deserve to starve. Of course, this ignores the real problem, at least in my local area, which is that the majority of food stamps are sold by their recipients, at a discount, for cash. The entire program needs to be eliminated.
the Grit
By: the Grit on April 26, 2007
at 4:39 pm
Tammi,
Our freedoms are always in the negative: freedom from censorship, freedom from congressional oversight of religious practices, freedom from gov’t intrusion into the home, etc.
The appropriate negative right associated with organic food is that people are entitled to a society in which the government does not interfere with the growth, purchase, or consumption of organic food products. (Theoretically, if the states want to regulate the sale of food under their health, safety, and welfare powers, that’s fine… I happen to thoroughly disapprove of the FDA, but that’s another story.)
By: theobromophile on April 26, 2007
at 4:41 pm
Yes, W, I agree with you that a large part of our society has an entitlement mentality and I’m afraid generationally it is just getting worse! I think ideally that there wouldn’t even need to be the crippled, single mom’s etc. dependent on the govt. in an ideal world the Church would be taking care of all those people. Not that would eliminate poor, but that they would be church dependent not government dependent. But, unfortunately not an ideal world. And so in those cases i believe in help, but as you said, not everything, as supplement.
I like your new banner
By: mommyzabs on April 26, 2007
at 7:22 pm
MZ,
Thanks for the banner props. I actually liked the old one too, but it was just a picture of sunflowers that I grabbed off of google — so, not very personal to me. I switched computers a couple months back and knew I wanted the picture that I now have, but had difficulty locating it. I found it yesterday and put it up. I like it because it was actually taken by a dear friend of mine in KS — which is where we are originally from. So, it reminds me of the sunflower state
By: wytammic on April 27, 2007
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wytammic,
Seeking wisdom from a politician is like asking Usama bin Laden for directions to a piggly wiggly
All the good Governor wants is more tax dollars to buy votes from fellow Americans fortune enough to convince the rest of us to feed, clothe and house them. If you can’t expect them to take care of themselves you can’t expect them to vote without some sort of incentive.
By: Ronin on April 27, 2007
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Ronin,
True story.
By: wytammic on April 27, 2007
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hi there!..thanks so much for visiting and commenting..please come again and let me know if you’d like to be on my ahem..”esteemed” blogroll too..lol..:)
By: Angel on April 27, 2007
at 5:08 pm
Hi Angel!
I would love to be on your esteemed blogroll
I see many friends there. Thank you for stopping by here, and you will most certainly be seeing me over at your place.
Hope you have a wonderful weekend
By: wytammic on April 27, 2007
at 5:16 pm
I am a landlord and quite likely not your average landlord, too. I frequently help my new tenants move their things in, (in my truck, lifting, carrying, toting… whatever I can do to help) and later, out when they eventually move on. I encourage them to save money and plan for eventually buying their own home. I preach to them the benefits of ownership, the tax deduction and how renting is getting you nothing but a roof over your head. I encourage saving money and give suggestions on how when asked. I give them CHRISTMAS cards and each family gets an annual gift turkey, any weight they wish, for their choice of either Thanksgiving or CHRISTMAS. I bring them vegetables from my garden in the summer and share ‘hunting fruit’ during the autumn. I haul their garbage twice weekly, mow their lawns in summer and plow/shovel their driveways/walkways in winter. I help them in any reasonable way needed at the time and encourage them to call me at any hour of the day or night for legitimate concerns. I offer letters of reference for character, rent payment history, etc. for any useful purpose like home loans, job ref’s and new landlord references, too.
I try to set a complete, responsible and thorough example for them to witness everyday. A fair and honorable exchange of maintained, clean housing and grounds for fair, prosperity seeking tenants in their own life transition…. WHO WORK and pay their rent reasonably close to on time (”reasons” accepted, “excuses” rejected).
I only have three sets of tenants total, but I have seen plenty of them on food stamps in the past… one set currently.
The past majority simply abused the system and had a huge dose of the “I’m special, therefore irresponsibility is allowed for me, and the World owes poor me anyway ’cause, afterall, I’m special.” They all seemed to have a tremendous knowledge of ‘the system’ and are quite skilled in abusing it, too. Most did not pay rent on time, were forever trying to “get over on me” in some financial way, rarely worked and only for brief stints when they did. It never lasted very long before soon someone was somehow “unfair” to them and they “had to” quit in a huff. One of my past deadbeat gems is now serving 17 years in a federal facility for multiple armed robbery with his cousin (in the truest keep-it-in-the-family spirit!). Now he’s on the taxpayer dole for an extended holiday.
The current set are struggling because the husband has a union job in a company substantially run by somewhat notorious liberals. They limit his allowed weekly hours to a bare minimum to just keep him so he’ll be there later when they get busy… then they’ll happily work him as many hours as he can stand up (he needs the health insurance for his family, so, on balance, he remains). The wife, who had given up a good job to raise their last born child at home in his earliest years, has now taken a job in which she works two short shifts, twice daily. They have nice, well mannered children, they stay abreast of current news, politics, school changes and issues, taxes… and they always vote. They pay their rent and are trying to save for a future purchase and move. They can’t wait to not need food stamps as a supplement.
I think that family is why Food Stamps and similar supplemental programs were created. But the one’s of the “I’m Special” mentality seem to be the most frequent applicants (magicians?).
I think if a landlord can try to set a good and useful example, Governor Ted Ninkompoop could too… and potentially be effective on a much broader scale. What he’s doing is exactly the wrong message. But when would we truly expect a liberal to take that ball and run with it?
By: Defiant_Infidel on April 27, 2007
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Hi DI,
Thanks so much for adding to the discussion. The governor of Oregon is an idiot. If he really cared about the citizens he would be encouraging them to get off of the system as soon as possible. Granted, many people work hard and are still on food stamps, and even they need to start trying to move on.
Truthfully, I work within the system. Out of hundreds of people, I’ve maybe seen 2 that aren’t capable of working. They simply choose not to. If I had a dime for the number of phone calls I’ve received of people asking, “How much will it affect my food stamps if I get a job?” Or, “I’m thinking about getting married, but will I still be eligible for food stamps if I do?”
I think that mentality is warped.
By: wytammic on April 27, 2007
at 6:06 pm
A pleasure to be able to participate in your well made point, Tammi.
Wow! You’ve seen all this and way more then! The mentality is warped… and we have cultivated it for many years. More resulting evidence that is overlooked or misinterpretted every day. How can these people look at the adult plant and forget the seed it came from?
For the last 16 years, I again have lived where I grew up as a kid (after being all over the place for about twenty years). I have many childhood friends who function just this way here. As dear as the memories from childhood are, I have great trouble having any respect for them now. They all think I am a fool to work so hard (the landlord thingy is a side endeavor from a whole separate business I operate and own). Maybe I do work too hard… but me and the sweet wife feed ourselves, pay our bills on time and manage our lives on our own. I guess I should be ashamed or embarrassed for that by their logic, but I wouldn’t know how else to live. I was raised that getting through life meant earning your way rather than trying to out smart and out screw the next guy.
How narrow and old fashioned, huh?
Take good care, Tammi.
By: DefianT_Infidel on April 28, 2007
at 8:26 am
Hi w
Did Governor Ted actually keep the food he bought with food stamps that he was not qualified to use? Could there be a scandal brewing in Oregon?
Lord Crimson
By: Lord Crimson on April 28, 2007
at 11:23 am
Hi LC,
I think we all know how sincere demonRats are. Granted, I’m just speculating here, but I would guess that this entire ordeal was simply for show and that the asinine governor actually ended up with his precious organic bananas and expensive coffee that week. Nevertheless, idiot government program leeches should continue voting demonRat because they are too stupid to realize that they are being exploited
Thanks for stopping by
By: wytammic on April 28, 2007
at 11:52 am
Just stoppin by to wish u a great weekend!
By: Angel on April 29, 2007
at 7:45 am
Mind if I ask you some question about Wyoming? E-mail me, if such is okay.
By: John Kaiser on May 1, 2007
at 6:31 am
Good thing you all aren’t from Houston. You’d go nuts hearing about the endless free rent and more demanded by and received by Katrina “refugees.” It has been 18 months, for goodness sake – and they still haven’t gotten jobs!!!
I am all for helping and giving generously, but if we really love people we’ll be surgical about who we give to and how much. It isn’t loving to entitle people who don’t really need it. They think they want it, but they’ll be much better off in the long run if they learn to work.
By: Neil on May 1, 2007
at 6:10 pm
Well said Neil. Truthfully, there is no experience like getting a little hungry to make one appreciate a good job.
I’ve actually known people to quit a job that pays $1000 per month because it makes them ineligible for their $155 per month in food stamps. I’ve never been great at math — but you’d have to be an imbecile not to see the idiocy in that!
By: wytammic on May 1, 2007
at 7:15 pm
What a pathetic situation! But that is inevitable when the government is put in charge of such things. If the churches and local communities still had the primary responsibility to help, then such things wouldn’t happen. People wouldn’t be coddled if there wasn’t a sterile bureaucracy involved.
By: Neil on May 1, 2007
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Agreed:)
By: wytammic on May 1, 2007
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Hi there ~
Just thought I’d add somewhat of a dissenting opinion. My best friend is the mother of five (ages 5-16) and a stay-at-home, homeschooling mother. She is incredibly conservative, politically. I thought I was conservative until I met her. Her husband has a Master’s degree from Oral Robert’s university and is a full-time chaplain at a large hospital, an adjunct professor at ORU, and a part-time pastor. Their 16yo has a job and contributes part of his income to the family. They have a solid, Godly, hard-working family. They also recently decided to use the foodstamp system.
Even with all his education, the husband makes about a third of what my husband makes. Since my best friend’s husband has a heart for ministry and service, and those jobs don’t typically rake in the dough, especially enough to adequately support a family of 7, they’ve had to place themselves at the mercy, somewhat, of federal assistance programs.
Their family doesn’t have a huge amount of debt, but they’ve recently decided to cut back *every* thing that is non-essential, including internet service, to get themselves entirely out of debt. The husband also recently decided — mostly for $$ reasons — to go back to school to get a nursing degree, since there’s a LOT more money in nursing than in chaplaincy, even though he’d *rather* be a chaplain and/or pastor. Unfortunately, the school expenses only add to the need to tighten the belt, so to speak, as does a crackdown on debt.
This family does not live extravagantly at all. They are upright and Godly, a model for truly Godly living and servanthood.
Now… I would freely admit that most people who use the foodstamp system (and other forms of federal aid) aren’t typically like my best friend’s family.
However, I post this as a reminder to withhold across-the-board judgement of foodstamp users.
With respect,
Karen
By: onlysometimesclever on May 7, 2007
at 12:31 pm
Karen,
Thank you for sharing that story.
What we are all taking issue with is the idea that food stamps should be enough to pay for organic, fair trade coffee and organic bananas. (Considering that most Americans can’t afford those things anyway, it’s a bit like handing out BMWs as public transportation.)
I’ve known a few people who needed food stamps and used them for about a year. They kept the kids fed while the parents got things together. (Note that many schools offer free or reduced lunches to students whose families qualify, and many offer free breakfasts, too.)
By: theobromophile on May 10, 2007
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